IICSA: Westminster Investigation
NN/YP Youth Parliament
Tue 28/05/2019 17:39
slander
NN/YP Youth Parliament
Tue 28/05/2019 16:48
Please see email below
NN/YP Youth Parliament
Tue 28/05/2019 16:47
I meant libel, an offence of making a malicious defamatory statement in a permanent form
Criminal libel
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Criminal libel is a legal term, of English origin, which may be used
with one of two distinct meanings, in those common law jurisdictions where it is still used.
It is an alternative name for the common law offence which is also known (in
order to distinguish it from other offences of libel) as "defamatory libel"[1]
or, occasionally, as "criminal defamatory libel".[2][3]
It is also used as a collective term for all offences which consist of the publication of some prohibited matter in a libel
(in permanent form), namely defamatory libel, seditious
libel, blasphemous libel and obscene
libel.[4][5]
The common law offences of seditious libel, defamatory libel, and obscene libel were abolished in England
and Wales and Northern Ireland on 12 January 2010 when section 73 of the Coroners
and Justice Act 2009 came into force,[6] blasphemous libel having already been abolished in England
and Wales on 8 July 2008 by the Criminal Justice and Immigration
Act 2008. The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 created
instead the offence of inciting hatred against a person on the grounds of their race or religion.
NN/YP Youth Parliament
Tue 28/05/2019 16:40
Dear Hannah,
This is the response I got.
So a serving police officer can slander me and you as the IOPC and the
DPS are saying to deal with a process that cannot help me at all to
clear my name from criminal liability. You have both left me with no
redress.
Regards
Mary Moss
NN/YP Youth Parliament
Tue 28/05/2019 14:43
Dear Lawyer,
I am part of the ongoing investigations and therfore you are preventing
the chair knowing my side of the story about the Commanders evidence.
Kind Regards
Mary Moss
Solicitors - <solicitors@iicsa.org.uk>
Tue 28/05/2019 14:23
Dear Ms Moss
Thank you for your email and for the information about your
complaint to the IOPC. As previously explained to you by my colleague
Ms Scholefield, it is not appropriate for us to pass your correspondence
to the Chair whilst investigations are ongoing.
We are sorry to hear that you feel aggrieved that you were not asked to
provide evidence at the Westminster public hearings. We have, however,
asked you to set out all your evidence in a witness statement, which
you have now kindly done. The Chair and Panel
will take into account all evidence received when preparing their
Westminster investigation report.
Yours Sincerely,
Nicola Margiotta
Investigation Lawyer
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From: NN/YP Youth Parliament <naypic@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 at 12:52
Subject: Re: FW: Alexis Jay
To: Solicitors - <solicitors@iicsa.org.uk>
Dear Abigail,I hope you are well.Sorry to trouble you as I know you have just finished the internet hearings etc and must be busy.Would you be able to let the chair see this letter before she concludes her report as a matter of urgency.I have had a response today from the IOPC regarding a complaint I made to them about Commander Neil Jerome and his public evidence to the inquiry.The Commander stated that the evidence seized from the raid at my home by Operation Fairbank at the time, was dubious and fabricated.I complained as that is public criminal libel, to which no evidence had been supplied, yet this suggestion could only be as good as his word, as a senior officer to the Met police, which would be taken very seriously I am sure, as a given, if he said it.The IOPC agree with the DPS Dept for Professional Standards that this complaint is 'an abuse of process' under the 2002 police reform act where another channel should deal with this and that channel as explained was you, the IICSA.Could you therefore repond regarding why the commander was allowed to slander me and why no one told me or provided disclosure in advance of this or indeed offered me a like for like under Jackson Law equality of arms, as I requested a public response. Why was I not asked at the public hearing where to my shock I was named, to give my own account of events. Did no one think to contact me?I am minded to now take legal action unless this issue is addressed to my satisfaction. I am a children's right's campaigner who has been associatied with a crook Labour Councillor Chris Fay and I have now been publically defamed by the police with no redress other than through you.Best WishesMary Moss
From: abigail.scholefield@iicsa.org.uk <abigail.scholefield@iicsa.org.uk> on behalf of Solicitors - <solicitors@iicsa.org.uk>
Sent: 09 April 2019 13:28
To: NN/YP Youth Parliament
Cc: Solicitors -
Subject: Re: FW: Alexis Jay
Dear Ms Moss
Thank you for your email.The Inquiry does not publish all witness statements on its website - only those which the Chair wishes to adduce in evidence. Although the Inquiry has not published your statement, please be assured that we have received this safely and the Chair and Panel will bear it, and all other evidence received, in mind when preparing their report on the Westminster investigation. I also note what you say in clarification about Angus Stickler.If any questions or queries arise from your statement or if we need any further information, we will be sure to contact you.Kind regardsAbigail ScholefieldInvestigation lawyer
a| PO Box 72289, London, SW1P 9LF
On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:44, NN/YP Youth Parliament <naypic@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Abigail,Where will my witness statement be on the website of iicsa for reference, for the press or social work professional as well as the public, in case they start chasing me saying that according to Commander Jerome, 'I' fabricated crown court evidence which is a serious allegation?Also as has the correction been put in that I asked stating it as Angus Stickler not Angus Walker as the two both work for the BBC and so that name needs to be corrected.Also I did't attach the 5 exhits to my statement including the one sent later that formed part of my witness statement, saying The Crown Court 821904 Kasir & Anr Exhibit No 14.You said the chair would have access to the witness statement?The other emails it doesn't matter but reassure me that the witness statement and exhibits will get to her whilst making her assessment.Best WishesMary
From: abigail.scholefield@iicsa.org.uk <abigail.scholefield@iicsa.org.uk> on behalf of Solicitors - <solicitors@iicsa.org.uk>
Sent: 29 March 2019 09:30
To: NN/YP Youth Parliament
Cc: Solicitors -
Subject: Re: FW: Alexis Jay
Dear Ms Moss
Thank you for your email.It is not appropriate for us to pass your correspondence to the Chair whilst investigations are ongoing. We have previously asked you to set out all your evidence in a witness statement, which you have kindly done. The Chair and Panel will take into account all evidence received when preparing their Westminster investigation report.Kind regardsAbigail ScholefieldInvestigation lawyer
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:32, NN/YP Youth Parliament <naypic@hotmail.com> wrote:Dear Solicitors,Can you tell me if the Chair is getting this information?Also I attach stamp of Crown Court Evidence the police took when they raided my house that you are at liberty to ask for, adduced in evidence, as Operation Winter Key, have it all still.Mary Moss
From: NN/YP Youth Parliament
Sent: 28 March 2019 17:03
To: solicitors@iicsa.org.uk
Subject: Alexis Jay
Dear Alexis,I am so mentaly battered by the whole Elm Guest House experience.I was just a teenager when I met the Guest House owner. It was a shock for me when she died. I did not expect to have to go to an inquest. I did not expect for our organisation to lose its funding because of the case. I did not expect to see workers at NAYPIC die because of the case. I did not expect the BBC to contact me in 2012 because of the case. I did not expect an MP to contact me because of the case. I did not expect to be raided because of the case. I did not expect to be in the news or in the papers because of the case. I did not expect the inquiry to name and blame me because of the case.In 2012 I owned to central London galleries.I was not even Mary Moss anymore.I had set NAYPIC back up happily for 10 years and I was building a youth economy. I helped with the children act. I helped with the UN convention of the rights of the child. I helped lots of ordinary children in care. Mary Moss to you is just a name but I am Mary Moss a person and all of this defamation is not something I went out looking for. It came to my door and now I realise it was because I had those crown court signing in books and not because of some BBC led media frenzy about a so called list, I carried around and housed the evidence and all the NAYPIC files because they were people's lives.But this is my life so please say something about me and not what has been said because it's not true and doesn't represent my life.I am fully DBS'ed not a crook, just an unfortunate that ended up carring the can for all those crooks that may never be exposed.Mary
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